Today, John Ramstead joins us to talk about his experience as an executive coach. He tells us about his origins in coaching, the ways in which he helps his clients, and how he views technology in our high-tech world. We discuss the schism between who we are and who we think we need to be, how you can begin to slowly understand and recognize what your best self looks like to you, and how you might go about bridging the gap.
We also talk about how technology can be used either as an excuse to fall back to our comfort zone or as a tool to help adjust to new ways of life. John shares how he and his remote team use technology in their business to develop and maintain deep, meaningful relationships, and how he uses a CRM to keep touch points and build relationships in other aspects of life/network.
In this episode, you will hear:
- John’s story of recovery and perseverance
- In the midst of the “what, how, and why”, who you are gets lost
- “Should” values; who we “should” be, what we “should” be doing
- Just how much things can change in 10 years
- The utmost importance of willingness to look deeply into yourself
- How to maintain high-touch relationships in our high-tech, remote world
John is an internationally recognized leadership expert and executive coach. He has 30 years experience as a Navy combat fighter pilot, entrepreneur, Fortune 500 management team member and board chair. John’s podcast, Eternal Leadership, was named Top 12 Leadership Podcasts by Inc. Magazine, reaching listeners in 176 countries weekly. He is the author of the best-selling book On Purpose With Purpose. John’s leadership training company, Beyond Influence, has been appointed Preferred Leadership Training Organization by the U.S. Air Force. Since his near-fatal accident ten years ago that required two years in the hospital and 23 surgeries, John has been able to share his testimony and message with millions of people.
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Transcript
John Ramstead 0:00
How do we develop high touch relationships? In a high tech world, in this higher tech world, right to maintain high touch actually takes more intentionality.
Announcer 0:15
Welcome to the healthier tech podcast, the show about building a healthier relationship with modern technology. Now, here are your hosts, R blank and Stephanie Warner.
Stephanie Warner 0:28
Wow, that was a really amazing episode. I really appreciate the all the information he shared in the work that he does. And his journey is just, you know, insane.
R Blank 0:39
Oh, yeah. Yeah, inspirational.
Stephanie Warner 0:41
absolutely inspirational. And, you know, I, I’m really interested in, in the way he spoke about building relationships using technology, and, and how we can, you know, as companies as individuals really lean into this new world of, you know, working remotely or, you know, more and more screen time as we build relationships with our friends, family businesses, what did you think?
R Blank 1:08
Yeah, I think listeners are, you’re gonna, this is a really great interview, and we’re just about to get into it. But I think one thing that I take away from from this chat is it’s another one of our guests who’s really focusing on the intentionality of our relationship with technology. And that’s such an important part of this, this whole journey we’re all on and Well, anyway, without going any longer. Let’s get to the interview.
Stephanie Warner 1:32
Yeah, absolutely.
R Blank 1:36
Today’s guest is John Ramsden, host of the eternal leadership, podcast entrepreneur, former Navy combat fighter pilot, leadership expert, and near death accident survivor. We’re going to take a journey into the world of a man who helps people learn the joy of living on purpose. Welcome, John to the healthier tech podcast.
John Ramstead 1:55
Hey, great to be here. Our thanks for having me on.
R Blank 1:58
Oh, no, thank you very much. How are you doing today?
John Ramstead 2:00
I am doing really good. Fantastic.
R Blank 2:03
Wow. Okay. That’s great. That’s it. So just to kick us off. I mean, your story is pretty incredible, both professionally and personally. And I understand you had an accident that kept you in the hospital for two years. And I guess this was about nine years ago. And I was I was hoping as a starting point, maybe we could talk about how that led to your current journey.
John Ramstead 2:29
Oh, my goodness. Well, it changed everything. I was up at a ranch in Montana working with a nonprofit and we were going to go horseback riding to the back of the property. You know, it’s just part of our get together about 15 of us to have lunch, and I’m on a horse that just bolts in, takes off and then a flat out gallop is heading straight at a crowd fans, and he won’t turn and he won’t stop and I’m absolutely freaking out. And then I remember oh at this full gallop about 20 yards in front of the fence. You know, when you get one of those adrenaline rushes and time slows down. I remember having a moment of perfect clarity, and I thought this is not going to end well. And that’s the last thing I remember. The horse comes into the fence and he bucked so hard he flipped over and he launched me Superman into a three inch steel beam so it completely caved in the entire left side of my skull. I broke every bone in my skull except my jaw on my cheek bone. I lost eight teeth, broke my neck in two places, shattered my right shoulder. And then to add insult to injury, the next bar down, hit my left my ribcage and crushed the left side of my ribcage broke all the ribs and broken ribs punctured my left lung. So we found out later from multiple doctors, what happened to me medically was not survivable, there was so much damage. I had complete and total near death experience if that’s something you want to talk about, happy to share. But that was a moment that was absolutely transformational for me, in my life, and then a very long journey forward.
R Blank 4:03
Yeah, so sorry, but just it’s a very dramatic image. And yeah. Yeah, just share the story, how it’s so but can you take me from from that moment? Or maybe not that exact moment, but from that period to, to your work with beyond influence?
John Ramstead 4:25
Well, you know, I, it was, my goodness, two and a half years. So I’m in ICU for five weeks, and had multiple surgeries, two brain surgeries, and then I had a severe traumatic brain injury. So I got transferred from Montana where I was back to where I live in Denver, Colorado to Craig Hospital. And I was there as a patient for 20 months with this TBI had 23 surgeries. And now imagine this are I’m Oh, a year and a half into my recovery. And I’m seeing every possible kind of doctor and therapist along In the way, and one of our doctors sits us down, and he’s looking at my wife, not me. And he goes, Hey, I just want to set expectations that, you know, John probably won’t be able to be a greeter at Walmart. Right now that gets now you know, I’ve been an entrepreneur and you know, a big goal setter my whole life and like, oh, so I kind of got me fired up a little bit. But here’s the thing, it’s coming out of a brain injury that severe to two and a half years after the accident, I literally could only work eight or nine hours in a week. That’s it, I could, I could be focused and have a conversation for a couple of hours in the morning and then literally have to go up to a dark room the entire rest of the day. And then when I finally was able to drive again, I could go meet with somebody, I could not be in a restaurant or any place with noise, my brain couldn’t process it. And I’m like, Okay, what do I do? I gotta support my family. My wife has been my caregiver for two and a half years, she hasn’t been a stay at home mom for 20. She could go back to work. But what does she do after 20 years out of her field as a physical therapist, and that’s where I got the idea. Actually, I was sitting down with a friend of mine. He’s CEO, we’d known each other before the accident. He goes, Hey, John, here’s everything going on in my life in my, what I’m trying to do in the community and philanthropy with my marriage and my business. And I feel like nothing is really working together the way it should. And whatever I focus on does well, but the other ones languish. He goes, I’ve decided to hire a coach. He goes, John, you would be a great coach. If you decide to be one. I’ll be your first client. I’m like, Oh, that’s awesome. Greg, I said, What’s a coach?
Stephanie Warner 6:42
Tell me more.
John Ramstead 6:43
I wish I had in the past. So I actually reached out to one, there’s one guy in Denver, I knew who was a coach. I’d met him at like a networking event. years, priors and the executive coach and I knew he did work with like Google and Microsoft. He’s pretty high level guy. And he basically said, Yeah, and I called him up. And he’s like, Yeah, I don’t really want to meet, you know, people call me all the time. I’m like, no problem. He called me back 30 minutes later and goes, Man, I just feel like, I need to meet with you. And we spent two hours together. And he said, You know what, I really wouldn’t you’re, you need to do this. And he became a mentor of mine, a mentor coach of mine. And I just in so when I got started our it was I decided to get into coaching, took coach training, how do I really refine a lot of my leadership skills that I’ve had over the military and, you know, 25 years as an entrepreneur and building companies and working in Fortune 500 As a senior manager, and in, but here’s, here’s my problem, I could still only work eight or nine hours a week. So I would go down, and let’s just say like you and Stephanie, like, I’d go schedule an eight o’clock coffee meeting with you are, I’d be done at nine. I’d scheduled Stephanie at 10. I would go to my car and set my alarm for 45 minutes, and I’d be sound asleep. I could then talk with Stephanie. But then I’d have to go home and spend two days resting. And that’s how I started my coaching business. Like I had a, I felt like I had something to share. I wanted to help people. I wanted to create something. I’ve always been an entrepreneur. In six months into that journey. I literally had one client paying me $500 a month, I almost quit right there. But I didn’t know what else I could do. I really honestly felt because what happened the accident, God leading me like this is what I was meant to do. And I kept with it. It was one of the hardest periods of my life period, I’m still recovering from a TBI. But at the end of the year, I had 13 clients. And I was at a six figure run rate. And I’d moved up to maybe 10 to 12 hours a week. And that was nine years ago, actually about eight years ago, and then it’s been growing ever since.
R Blank 8:52
Wow. That is That is some serious drive that I think that story demonstrates. So yeah, can can you talk now a little bit about in a little more detail what what your coaching consists of what the work is that you you focus on?
John Ramstead 9:10
Just you know, here to summarize it. The entire leadership industry focuses on the why and the what and the how, and I believe those are very important. And we all know people that have made massive careers, talking about each one of those. And here’s what I’ve seen from myself and leaders I get to work with, there’s a foundational piece to that, that if it’s broken, none of those will work and that is who you are. Because think about it. I could come and get the best mentorship ever from you. Right? Or go find somebody else who was, you know, a multi million dollar coach working, you know, all over the world, and am I guaranteed to get their results? No, I’m not. And the reason is, is because I might be taking all their best stuff on the who and the what and the why and the how and all these things and running it through a flood person. And so a big part of my philosophy was, if I can just help my clients become the best or a better version of themselves, everything else is going to get easier. Not easy, but easier. And it’s going to get clearer. And then when I have a CEO of a company, whether I’m working at the Pentagon, or a fortune 100, at the C suite, or a nonprofit in town, and I’ve just seen it, and I work with somebody, and they get better guess what happens is they get that awareness. And they build, it’s really kind of a journey of emotional intelligence and coupling that with somebody’s life experiences. But when they do that, all of a sudden, they now have the ability to help the folks on their team do the same thing. They’re going to show up differently, if there’s a conflict, they’re going to handle making decisions, they’re going to let go of their need to control or perfectionism, there’s so many things that all of a sudden just start being shed, as we go through this process. And then, and then I get, I just love being a little part or a big part, whatever that is, in that equation. I’m a catalyst of both an individual a team and an organization’s success. And the people I love to work with are very, I would call them mission driven entrepreneurs and their, their company exists not only for what they do, but the impact that they want to have in the lives of their people, or maybe in the community or a cause or something like that. Those are the those are the people that I love to work with.
R Blank 11:24
So I’m curious, and I actually have no idea how you’re gonna answer this question. But as you begin this process of their client, yeah. How do you know? Or how does the client know what the best version of themselves is? Or how do you know when you get there? How do you know what even to aim at?
John Ramstead 11:45
Well, let you know, let’s just take yourself far. If you think back, even over the last few years, through all the adversity that we have in COVID, and probably economically and and you know, in the business, you know, what were those times where you just felt like man nailed it, what was going on? What were those times when you just had those bright moments in your relationships, it’s really a process of really understanding one’s core values, it’s a big thing that I write about in my books, a lot of us have what I call our our should values. This is how I think I should show up, this is what I think I should do, who I should be. And there’s this huge schism between who we think we need to be to succeed in a certain role, and actually who we are. So looking at core values, looking at our passions, those things that just ignite us, and might be something we monetize or not, it doesn’t matter. What are our skills, our talents and our gifts? And as we start to put all those together, it starts to create a map for people to just how do we I’m a huge fan of just small steps, how do we just get incrementally better, and maybe what we do or why we do it, and if we can slowly make progress in both of those areas, and we start moving up into the right in our life, and all of a sudden, we can get to this place that? Here’s an interesting question. When I was first getting started, I went and interviewed 10 CEOs that I thought would be like my ideal target audience. And some of them were faith based. And some of them weren’t, it was a big spectrum, I just wanted to get a lot of different insights. Here’s one thing that every single CEO said at some point during that interview conversation, big fan of Ryan love X asked method, this, where it came from, by the way, but all of them said something like this, I would love to live life more fully. Alright, man, I would love to be fully alive, or man, I would like to just enjoy life. Now. I don’t know what it looks like, I don’t know how to get there. But I don’t I know that I do not have it. And then what I found was working with people on just slowly peeling back that best version of themselves, the person that doesn’t get upset and start yelling at their kids, the person that comes home and wants to just love on their wife, even if she is not having her best day, you know, I’m saying is usually I would respond to that I would react in kind, right? And when we start understand what are the you know, we all have the same set of facts that happen, right? You know, relationally, the dynamics, but then based on all of this stuff in our life and our history and our identity, we start spinning a narrative out of that. And it’s a narrative that usually self serving. And often that narrative is deceived. And it’s not informing us on how to either make the best decision show up in the best way, you know, be that better version of ourselves. And as we start to just it’s a process. I tell my clients that I don’t work with anybody for less than six months, because what I found is the first couple months of self discovery is a lot of fun. And then you go oh my gosh, I got a lot of crap in my trunk that I got to clean out and then the real work starts And I find usually there’s this big law and the two, three month kind of timeframe, because now we’re talking about making some personal change. And I always tell my clients upfront that we have to work through that. That’s why I won’t work with anybody for less than six months, without exception, and you need to prepay for all six months of practice, I gotta fire, people getting frustrated, and they’re like, you know, they back off from the coaching, or they not schedule a meeting, and then it’d be a month and then you lose the connection. And I’m like, No, if I have limited time, and I’m gonna really work with somebody, I want to work with somebody that truly is willing to put in the work that I did, to just get to a place. And I’ll tell you today, my marriage after 33 years, my relationship with all my boys was horrible. Today, they’re my best friends. Two of them have already reached out to me this morning, texted me and called and just said, Hey, Pop’s, how you doing? Right? Life is very limited. I’m still recovering. I’m in pain, every day, but I get to be here, and I’m alive. And I just live from a place of just deep gratitude, which is also been a game changer. I don’t know if that answers your question long answer to questions. But how’s that?
R Blank 16:11
No, that was fantastic. So well, I feel good, because I’m gonna get to give you an opportunity right to because because you like working with mission driven companies. You’re on the healthier tech podcast. And we are driven by a mission of helping people work through the process of figuring out how to establish healthier relationships with technology, because technology is it’s everywhere. It’s part of every action and transaction, whether we explicitly recognize it or not. So as a next step, I was hoping to try to get a deeper understanding of the role of technology in your in your coaching process. So as a starting point, does it factor in to your clients behaviors, with their technology, hamper their performance? Are there ways in which they’re, they’re able to use it to their advantage? And in advancing through this process?
John Ramstead 17:03
Yes. And what you’re doing is so important, because we have transitioned, we were transitioning, and then COVID, accelerated to this higher tech world, a more disparate workforce, you know, more people wanted to be hybrid, but then in that, how do we develop high touch relationships? In a high tech world? Right? It’s something a lot of people have been like figuring out, hey, how do I do that? Well, how do I have the same connection with my team when I’m not in the office with them? Right? How do I have a connection as a coach with a CEO of a Fortune 100 company who is in New Jersey, and we’ve literally never met in person. And there’s no way I could do that without technology, zoom, or using the phone. But I gotta tell you, it’s about being in this higher tech world, right to maintain high touch actually takes more intentionality. For me to reach out if we’re working together as a team, and morale, let’s say the three of us are all in different states, right? We can be doing our thing, and then we jump on a Zoom meeting, and we check in but then we go back. And all of a sudden, like, just over time, there’s just not that connection. So what do you do? Either like for our teams, we can go into some specific things that you want. But I would tell I guess a headline would be, do not let technology be an excuse, on why you can’t have deep meaningful relationships in this hybrid world that we live in. Because what I have found is, I just had my mastermind group that I’ve been running a group of 10 CEOs we have not met in person in a year. And they all just came to my house for like, and only two of the 12 people I’ve met in person. And it was like, I’d known these folks forever. Now being in person was absolutely a blessing. It was awesome. But I don’t know that that’s my level is don’t let it don’t let it be an excuse. The fact that it’s that you can’t have excellence in relationships and culture in a team because we’re now in a new working environment.
R Blank 19:16
I like that. I appreciate that. So do you think that you’re seeing people are using it as some kind of excuse in in terms of their personal their professional interpersonal relationships?
John Ramstead 19:28
You know, I see that with the maybe it’s leaders my age, I’m 55 are right, so I know that the clients I coach with who are my age, they just want everybody to come back in the office because that’s their comfort zone. So right so they they’re like, you know, we need to come back in the office. And then they try to roll that out. And then all their younger employers are like, Oh, no, not happening. I’m just gonna leave. Right, like, I can go, I can do good pay just as much and I can be home with my dog, and I can come into the office maybe once or twice a week, and so I’ve seen people use that as an excuse for, because they say it’s harder, and they get frustrated. When we allow ourselves to get that place what I think is, then you know what, you’re not going to be as proactive, I’m not going to reach out and just maybe text Stephanie and say, Hey, how was your weekend, I’m not going to show up and say, hey, you know, I’m, this is what I do with my team. I’m just like, hey, I’m sitting here working anybody else, you know, right now. And we’ll actually just jump on Zoom. And we’ll all have our cameras on and we’ll have it on mute. And we’ll all just be working in the background, just so we have some company. And when we plant somebody will be played in the music, and we’ll kind of swap around people get to play their different playlists. But then if I have a question, I come off, go, Hey, Stephanie, man, I’m, I’m stuck with to sing Nana, can you you know, what, can I throw this up on the screen? And let me know what you think of this copy I just wrote, and it’s definitely goes, Oh, wow, that’s, that’s yeah, I’m glad you asked. Because that’s, that’s not going to help you. You’re, you’re just you know, what you’re trying to do is bring some things into that environment. And all of a sudden, you’re just having a ball, we’d get together and do happy hours. Couple, you know, a couple times a week. There’s, I don’t know, there’s just a lot you can do in this environment that I think that here’s what I think is either technology, you just got to look at what you have. It is either a constraint to your culture and your productivity. Or it is an accelerator, and it’s a differentiator for your company, to your culture, and what you’re trying to accomplish. And if it’s not that accelerator, if that was your answer, you need to reach out to people like Arne Stephanie, who’ve made it an accelerator because you need to get there. And I’m telling you, you absolutely can get there. My team now is after eight years, and you heard the start, right, 12 coaches for employees, preferred leadership vendor to the US Air Force, I mean, things have exploded, there is no way in, I have one employee that’s in Denver, one of those, actually, two of those entire team are here in Denver, but one’s an hour and a half away in North here. And we have built that as a completely remote team over the last eight years, even before COVID.
R Blank 22:13
So you were well positioned for the
John Ramstead 22:16
Yes, that was for us. Nothing really changed. Frankly, yeah, actually, the nice thing for me was all these training events we had all over the country, because I usually fly over to in person, we got to sweats. And I actually just got to come right here in this office. And I got everything all set up with multiple cameras, and a 10 video switcher and in different inputs. So just to create this incredible training and teaching experience our reviews from our attendees, and we’re doing two, three and four day courses virtually in front of us screen, like the seven, eight hours a day, our reviews went up. The last course that we did to a group of very senior leaders from one of the Air Force Bases was 10 out of 10, from all 15 attendees. And this was a three day course of senior leaders. So technology in that environment absolutely enabled us to over deliver what our what our customers were expecting.
Stephanie Warner 23:13
That’s interesting. Have you found that? Or have you built in? Or maybe you already did, because you are so familiar and used to kind of a telecommuting environment? Have you found that you’re bringing that relationship building aspect more into your, into your, your program, especially since COVID? Because we have so many people who are just not used to this not used to working, you know, remotely?
John Ramstead 23:42
You bring up a great point, you know, what, when COVID first hit, and I realized that, you know, I either had I had a small percentage, my clients that were their businesses were booming, and other ones that were absolutely life support, some of them didn’t make it. And here’s what I realized is people are gonna remember during this time how I showed up, right? And that is who I was, I reached out to all of my existing clients, past clients, and even people that had not hired me in the past. And I just said, What can I do to serve you? What can I do to add value? I’m not going to charge you can I can I come in and do something for your team? Can I show you guys how to work remote? Can I help you solve a problem? And I every day I was having these amazing conversations. And then without even asking people started coming back and say, John, we want to work with you again. And we can we can pay it. We can’t pay you what we paid before or maybe it was new. And then here’s the other thing, though, on how I’ve built my last four companies. In that is I am a huge I’m huge about staying in touch with somebody. So let’s just say I meet you Stephanie. I’m like, Wow, this definitely is cool. This is just This is my quick and dirty and how I use technology to do this. I call it my 26 Touch method but it’s I would categorize people as an A, B, or C. So an A is somebody I absolutely either wanted as a client could refer me to a client, or just somebody who’s so cool that I just wanted to really stay in touch with. And I’m going to reach out to you every two weeks. Okay, A B is somebody I think could be a client might refer me, or just that neat person you don’t want to lose touch with maybe they could hire me or work with me at some point in the sea, or just, you know, friends, family, college fraternity brothers, people you met a couple years ago at a networking meeting. You don’t want to go Oh, my gosh, what was that guy’s namely, he was so cool, Doug. Yeah, Doug. Man, it was years ago at that speaker conference. And so bad, you know, shame on me, I should have thrown Doug in the bucket. But here’s what I did, though. I put all that in my CRM. And I have about 20 No more than 25 A’s no more than 30 bees in no more than 30 season. And guess what, though? I reach out to people with this either a phone call, a text, an email, and none of it is soliciting. Let’s you know, Stephanie, like what’s a hobby of yours, Stephanie? Photography, okay, so I might actually Google something and say, Hey, here’s a killer article on how to take professional videos on an iPhone 13. Like when you’re out and about with your friends, I know you love photography, man, hope you’re having an awesome day, keep rockin John, that would be my touch base to you. Even though you may be what could be my ideal client. And then if people were in town or zoom, I would also weave in there, hey, let’s talk in person. And then guess what? In my CRM that I’m using this as this incredible tool. Because if you look at that number of people divided by, you know, over, you know, 90 days, there’s only three to five people a day that are popping up. And I can sit here and reach out and have a touch point. With in build relationships with 90 people on five or 10 minutes a day. Anybody can do that. And by doing that, all of a sudden, you’re using technology to enable relationship building conversations, staying in front of mind, helping people solve problems, and that inevitably leads to can you help me with this? Specifically, can I hire you to do this? Or and then, you know, I’m always just a huge abundance mindset person. And I’m very quick to say, you know, I’m not the guy. You know what, I don’t have that expertise, but I have a friend, you need to talk to them. And I would much rather have you work with somebody who I know is going to just it’s right in their wheelhouse then maybe try something just because I might need a paycheck and then doing that, that I think that’s why our business has grown so big.
Stephanie Warner 27:36
Yeah, I’m if you sent me that text, and you know, we had just a conversation, we met at a conference and you sent me a text, like, I’d be like, I would be a I’d be like, I can’t believe you remember, that’s my thing. We were talking about conference stuff. And that just came up. That’s a great strategy and approach to building out the network. And then of course, you know, in the end building out your your business.
John Ramstead 27:58
Yeah. And I used to do that on spreadsheets. But now I know I use a CRM and CRM is I figured out you know, the best CRMs
R Blank 28:08
I was actually going to ask you when the recording
John Ramstead 28:11
Oh, yeah. Here’s the best CRM one that you log into every day. Oh. Convince that doesn’t matter what you pick, you just got to use it.
Stephanie Warner 28:23
Right? Yeah. That’s fair.
R Blank 28:27
Maybe you just you just answered this question. But you know, what, what would one specific practice that my listeners can try to work on be to, to optimize their performance to help find out what the best version of themselves is and move towards it?
John Ramstead 28:44
Well, if it’s okay to put in a shameless plug our I would say read my book on purpose with purpose. But here what here was my honestly my quest and my prayer everyday since the accident was, what is I kept seeking to get understanding of who the thing about it, like, there’s the person you see in the mirror, and then you have that best version of yourself. And I think we are much more aware of what this gap is when we’re really real with ourselves. And my every day, my thing was, what is one thing I can do today, even if it’s really small, that I could work on today, just to help me be a little better, and sometimes I failed, and it’s frustrating. But you know, I love what Tony Robbins says we totally overestimate what we can do in a year. And we completely underestimate what could happen in a decade. So it’s been virtually a decade since my accident. My marriage was about we’re about to file for divorce. My kids didn’t like me and I was miserable. Because I was working so many hours running a company. And it I have the opposite life now 10 years later, and it was just a journey of many, many small steps, failures, setbacks, learning and you know, regardless of technology, I Think when technology is a tool to help us get more done more efficiently, and if it’s not go get some help. But we need to be working on ourselves. That’s my one tip. What is that one thing you might want to work on today. And I would encourage people, I’m a huge reader. I read three or four books every month, and over the last 10 years, a lot of those have been on mindset and habits and emotional intelligence and relationships and all these areas that I just wanted to have excellence in. And I found mentors, and I found coaches. So this is something I said, okay, if I’m want the results, am I willing to put in the work to get there because it’s some of this isn’t easy, but we can make it easier.
R Blank 30:42
So that as we wind up this interview, I want our my listeners to know that they can learn more about you at beyond influence.com. And your book is available beyond influence.com/book. And also they can listen to you on your eternal leadership podcast. Are there other places you’d like the listeners to go connect with you or take action? Yeah,
John Ramstead 31:07
I’m on LinkedIn, John Ramstad, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, it’s all John rams to John dot Ramstad. So I’m all over the place and love to connect with you.
R Blank 31:18
Excellent. And well, we’ll put all those links in the show notes. So John is first off incredibly inspirational story. And, and I really appreciate you taking the time to come on to the healthier tech podcast and then sharing specifically your insight into into the role of technology in both business improvement and personal improvement and just a post pandemic reality that we’re all kind of grappling with day to day. So thank you so much.
John Ramstead 31:44
Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks for having me on. It’s great meeting y’all.
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